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                          马云访谈录:成功者只能走自己的路

                          来源:南华早报   2013/7/15 8:09:43
                          摘要:2013年5月10日,用一场杭州城里万人空巷且极具仪式感的晚会,他载歌载舞,然后,他告诉大家,他不再担任阿里巴巴的CEO了。

                           MAYUNHAISHINEIGEMAYUN。

                          对战牛牛   2013NIAN5YUE10RI,YONGYICHANGHANGZHOUCHENGLIWANRENKONGXIANGQIEJIJUYISHIGANDEWANHUI,TAZAIGEZAIWU,RANHOU,TAGAOSUDAJIA,TABUZAIDANRENALIBABADECEOLE。

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                            谈电子商务和创新:我做的是生态系统

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                          对战牛牛   JIZHE:NIJUEDENIZAIGUANLISHANGMEIYOUDADESHIWU,SHIZHEIYANGMA?

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